I put about 600 through it with the extensions with no issues. is the cruciform on the trigger bar seated properly in the trigger mechanism housing? When I press the slide release it loads just fine. For that matter, 99.99% of dirty unlubricated Glock 23's with stock parts and well worn RSA's will go into battery 99.99% of the time with all but the worst .40 cal ammo. Try some hot 124 or 147 factory rds and let me know if it still does it. I have used them in several Glocks and found them to give a light pull while also giving a crisper break and feel. I do . You can take the Glock Armorers course and they give you one. Glock slide not going into battery, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK-5Fw3yjcM. I haven't fired it yet, but all of the dry functions now work as well as the recoil spring test!!! Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. I had this with my first gen P80. Yes, the Glock has been altered from stock. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Is this normal with these mods? I have 3 of them and two of the three needed extensive adjustments to the connector and trigger bar cross bar to reset properly and consistently drop the striker. No lube should be needed on RSA. When I press the slide release it loads just fine. In one range trip (about 350 rounds) and one match this past weekend, I basically can't get through a magazine without multiple failures to go into battery. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rochester-Personal-Defense-LLC/461665857219329, Laws and Politics - Firearms/Self Defense/Weapons. If the firing pin did not drop then chances are that is the issue. Is this RSA going to $hit already? The slide goes forward just fine if he doesn't hold back the trigger but when he holds back the trigger, the slide won't go fully forward. UPDATE! It is one of the dual captured springs, so there doesn't appear to be much that can be done to "fix" anything. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. Your previous content has been restored. A Glock is one of the easiest pistols to work on and we have pleanty of content for you to learn more about this pistol. You may not post anything that is remotely related to, or tangentially related to, sales, deals, trades of firearms, ammunition, or explosives Per Reddit's Policy r/Glocks, Press J to jump to the feed. I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. So let's make sure we understand this situation. I am making sure not to ease it forward. Ammo used was all cheap Tula 9mm 115 gr. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The plunger spring somehow got turned sideways. it looks like the spring doesn't detend far enough , then doesn't pushes the slide into complete battery. this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. Like polishing amounts? I'm not new to glocks and have done detailed strips before so I don't think it is the recoil spring not seated correctly. Everything else seems to be working fine. While dryfiring; with trigger depressed, when I pull the slide backwards about half way to reset it, the side won't go into battery. The second came from the Instructor I took the course from. I have noticed that my G26 spring has been failing the recoil spring test.as of late. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Looking for help. It runs fine when shooting but it you ease the slide forward it stops and does not go into battery unless the trigger is moved forward. With Timney I can set off small rifle that I could not with my Glock trigger. Is it safe to shoot? I still want a few more range trips before i start carrying it daily again but it seems we are on the right track. A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. Pasted as rich text. I will look into buying some calipers. I think I had a similar problem once. I totally get this. Or vice down the slide (use wood or thick cardboard not a bare vice or you'll mess up the slide) and push the frame forward toward the muzzle as hard as you can. When it completely hangs I can release the trigger part way and it will snap into battery. I only switched because my Glock trigger could only set off certain primers due to the lightness of the springs I needed to get it to work. If all else fails I'll call Glock. with the gun completely empty and the factory connector installed I can still get it to FTRTB by holding it vertically and riding the slide home with the trigger depressed. I found my recoil springs drops a little as well. I would like to take the glock armors course but not LE or GSSF might just have to change that some day. what I was trying to reference was the ' striker safety spring'. Your link has been automatically embedded. I'm sorry it took me so long to reply, but life got in the way. It will keep the gun just out of battery when reversed. With that said I dont really see how your issue is being caused by the trigger. Maybe he did something to the slide? I think the mag springs might have been pretty tight too, 'cause mine seemed to want to hang on the first couple of rounds out of the mag. Haha). It's working fine now. It's always good to close the loop when a problem is discussed. If so swap slides and eliminate the slide being the issue. Also do you have another 17 handy? It has failed to return fully to battery once but every other time, it's a brief hesitation then it snaps into battery. While you're at it, give the drop safety button a good buffing as well. Wish I could look at it directly. I do not recommend using a dremel on that. I tired changing the connector back to the original and nothing changed. My friend is having an issue with his 80% glock 19. I initially chalked it up to the recoil spring being too light or a magazine issue, but it's still happening after swapping the stock, barely used RSA back in, and it has happened with all of the extensions. Was this an issue before you installed the new connector? Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. To eliminate grip issues, have you had anyone else try to replicate the issue with a different box of ammo? I had the luxury of multiple Glocks to fall back on, though. Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. Nick29 If the slide goes into battery with this test, you've got other issues. Does it function? That's been my experience. The test I use is to take an UNLOADED gun and hold the trigger back, rack the slide back, then let the slide forward with my handto the point just before the barrel starts to rotate up, then I release the slide. I'm in California), but then it stops going forward just short of going into battery. This, in all cases with any new firearm, is a fundamental error. I put some vibratite on the screw and am going to head to the range to test it in a few minutes. I was a little afraid to fire it after I ran the recoil spring test and it didn't go back into battery. Knock on wood but I think I may have figured it out with help from many of your suggestions. Welcome to Glocks, Slide not fully returning to battery while trigger hasn't been reset (G19) So I have a G19, cerakoted slide. Any update on this? Just file a little, test, file a little till it isnt happening any more? Things to note on a P80 is that the rails are sometimes not within spec for earlier models. Found the culprit. Limp wristing one handed wasn't the issue as it happened with both hands first. I like the idea of using a second gun to diagnose. Hopefully that's all it was. I agree with comments a few others have already made that Timney triggers are not necessarily a simple drop in. You cannot paste images directly. I am sure it has to do with some of the mods I've done. SJ 40, thank you! Your previous content has been restored. I'm assuming the recoil spring isn't the issue since it's only been fired one time. Then compare frames and see what is different. I've been running Glock pistols since they came out with the G21 in .45acp over 30 years ago, that's when I sold my Colt 1911 and never looked back. I know a few guys who shoot sigs and its starting to feel like Ive been trying to make my gun perform more like theirs. I have 2 Timneys installed, one on a 34.4 & 34.3. try firing it. I ordered a pierce +0 grip extension that should take care of the pinch and I'll only use round nose in it from now on. When you are normally shooting, your trigger is still pulled back when the slide returns. Have you tried the field test for the RSA? Usually a problem in the op rod channel or a rail problem. Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. BTW, the Cold Bore work is really nice! If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Maryland Shooters is the most active and largest Maryland gun community online. I will give anything a try because I can't afford to just eat the cost of this slide and buy a new one. If that doesn't fix it, take the slide apart in the rear (you can find a YT video of how to take the back plate off) and make sure the springs on the firing pin, extractor and firing pin safety are in their correct orientation and not deformed. My Glock trigger was/is the same as my Timney, 2.5#. JavaScript is disabled. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! There are MANY other options for Glock trigger mods and all of them have been in use far longer than the Timney. From personal experience I recommend a factory connector. The only reason I switched to be honest, especially with primer scarcity. Never had an issue with the factory barrel. BrianEnos.com But after doing some research, I shouldn't be surprised that a guy who got arrested for ripping off his LEO department, and even got his wife arrested for it too, would hier less than professional crew. May be the recoil spring not being in the right seat position. I bought the G19 new, and ive never torn the slide down. Display as a link instead, I have a brand new Gen4 Glock 17, which the only "upgrade" I have done is change the connector to a Taran Tactical one. It does once I release (reset) the trigger. Or has it been an issue since purchase? Will get some pics next time at the range. I bought a LW threaded barrel direct from Gemtech last year for my suppressor. When I got the first one for my 34.4, I had multiple issues that I couldn't resolve, so I got my backup 34.4 dropped that same trigger in and it ran perfectly first time in. Yes Glocks are pretty darned easy firearms to work with/on and, because of this, they are easy to make mistakes with as well. I've got a 3rd gen G19 that I use as a suppressor host. I only shoot factory ammo. This is a brand new firearm and before you fired even one round down range you took it apart and modified it thus you have no baseline performence to know what the firearm was doing before you "improved" it. FYI it's not the recoil spring. Shoot the crap out of it. This may sound crazy but if you or a buddy have a tac light slip it on the rail and try firing again. A forum community dedicated to glock owners and enthusiasts. I checked and it looks fine. - Bren. what happens when you let it down slow is nothing like shooting it. Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. Let me start by saying that I know I bought the wrong aftermarket slide. While you are on our site, don't forget to check out our Glock Frame Disassembly, Glock Frame Reassembly, Glock Slide Disassembly and Reassembly as well as Glock Field Strip videos to learn more about the Glock pistols. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. Be sure to check out our gun classifieds where you can buy, sell or trade your gear. Just got my slide back from being milled for dp pro and does not go into battery every time. I mostly shoot 147gr Federal American Eagle. I'm kinda an apartment dweller with more Barbie dolls than tools (they are my daughters. Turns out I reinstalled the takedown lever backwards. I could measure how it was off. Ill be glad when theyre done and I can go back to the 4.0 lb spring. LW barrels are drop in, but they really are more of forced fit. Just got my G26 back from Cold Bore Customs and did a quick trigger job, installed a smooth trigger and an extended slide release. If you completely stripped it, listen to alma. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Pull out a round that chokes the pistol in the manner you are describing. There is a lot of stuff interacting to make the gun work and sometimes it can be hard to figure out. The hit on the primer was a solid hit, dead center on the .45 case that blew out. My brand new Glock 19 Gen4 does the exact thing. Lord, make me fast and accurate. There's too much risk of changing the angle, removing too much material, and or rounding the edges(which will result in decreasing surface area). What do your used primers look like? 1. You should seriously look at the takedown lever. Check for it. JavaScript is disabled. The slide goes into battery, but the primer hits look off. It should close by itself. If I let It slam shut there is no problem. What you describe sounds exactly like what's happening. I may have to get out a Glock and take a look. Thanks. Your previous content has been restored. update looks to be the coating in tight paces, there is some ware marks on the slides where is contacts the frame. Break it in!!! I read it gave a much nicer trigger pull. *********************************************, [URL]https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp?campaignid=XI026751. If it strips a round and goes completely into battery then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. The slide isn't meant to be let down easy during normal use. Your link has been automatically embedded. Matter of fact, I have a couple of triggers from Charlie Vanek that he used a Lone Wolf connector in that he had tuned up. Im curious to see what the hype is about but getting rid of my Glocks isnt a consideration. Its the archer not the arrow i know, but i was immediately more accurate with the timney. It's only had failures to go to battery when I milked the slide. Ive played with the trigger a good bit and its still a glock trigger. Did you completely strip the frame when you changed connectors or just the trigger assembly? I'm pretty sure it actually WAS only fired once before because the copper grease was still very apparent when I field stripped it. Make sure your slide lock spring is all the way flush with the inside channel. I check the recoil spring from time to time the first way Vincent mentioned. If this checks out 17 pounds is for 40 S&W. 4 Reply SuccMySquanch 8 mo. Everything seemed fine at a field strip level just to oil. Could be too long and hitting the extractor bar/spring thingy and not letting the extractor get up over the case rim. Seat the magazine and pull the slide back all the way. Grab the slide by the serrations and ram the web of your shooting hand into the cradle of the frame as hard as you can until it unjams. I couldnt be happier. What is the length of your round, bullet type, and powder/charge for the reload? If all fails, trade in and buy a Glock 19. On a side note, this gun did not want to feed my semiwadcutters at all, and also pinched my pinky a lot. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Anyways, I noticed when messing around with it that the slide is not going all the way back into battery when I ride the slide forward while holding the trigger back. Or at least use it as a starting point to tweak in a different direction than a Timney??? Once I put the stock one back in no problems. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. All Rights Reserved. Several years ago a local Glock shooter told me Lone Wolf is what he used. I stripped the entire frame and can't seem to find the issue. Paste as plain text instead, I just pulled the firing pin safety and sure enough the spring had gotten tweeked when I reassembled it. Thanks for the suggestion. Handy to have this around while you're tinkering A forum community dedicated to all New York firearm owners and enthusiasts. Did not have any problems before I had this milled. so, not a G20 but nearly all G17/19 I built or had the opportunity to help had the part that sticks up on the trigger assembly that pushes on the firing pin safety too high. can your extractor move freely? Advise requested, a question about requiring the FEDERAL 4473 form, SB 1 and SB 858 Committee vote Friday at 9 AM, Old Racist Gun Laws Enter Modern-Day Legal Battles, New Gun Giveaway! One mag in particular was the worst. No aftermarket parts except Night Sights on a Glock that is going to be a Self Defense Weapon. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Powered by Invision Community, failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger. You are using an out of date browser. If you need to smooth the face on the cruciform, I've found that a super fine file works best. 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